Vvar: Aryon's letter on psychological plans
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03-07-2006, 01:14 AM,
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Vvar: Aryon's letter on psychological plans
[TITLE]Master Aryon's Letter on His Psychological Plans[/TITLE]
Hail my good friend Baladas,
Master Aryon NOTE: this is a piece of literature in-game, probably tied to a quest [/hr] EDIT: I have placed thi shere to gather criticism and suggestions from all, thanks |
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03-08-2006, 11:44 AM,
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RE: Vvar Lit.- Aryon's letter on psychological plans
This is a chunky subject to tackle and brave speculation - what Aryon might say in this context will be overwritten by the events that the Devs come up with for the intervening years as well as current.
Too bad we do not have more input from Ob yet. But I suggest that whenever the inspiration strikes you you add to this so that you have a foundation and structure to work on (and correct) when we finally hear the Word...
Because loyalty is not to be spoken of and honour is to be endured. Whilst courage is to be survived. These virtues belong to silence.
Steven Erikson. But, if one man does nothing can he be said to be good? raggidman |
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03-08-2006, 06:00 PM,
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A short comment: I wouldn't use terms like 'psychological development', it sounds to modern to me.
Squirrel, squirrel, canst thou see? There?s a Snow Elf behind thee!
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03-08-2006, 09:26 PM,
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Quote:Originally posted by Zarkissuggestion? |
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03-08-2006, 10:39 PM,
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Something like "instilling values" perhaps? Instead of Aryon discussing how to thange their mentality, he could look at it from a simpler perspective, like making them think something. A rally of the people sort of thing.
BTW, thats some good stuff you wrote up. I have a feeling whatever OB does won't muck it up much, its unlikley they will give a whole lot of information on Telvanni politics, so you pretty much have free reign. |
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05-04-2006, 06:28 PM,
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Think now would be a good time to look at this again in the light of the Fyr Quest being developed on the Vvardenfell board.
The people who are gunning for Fyr would want to separate Master Aryon from his Master.... = possibilities for skullduggery! edit typo: ggod to good???
Because loyalty is not to be spoken of and honour is to be endured. Whilst courage is to be survived. These virtues belong to silence.
Steven Erikson. But, if one man does nothing can he be said to be good? raggidman |
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05-04-2006, 07:08 PM,
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KuKulzA: I'm curious, did you by any chance write your text before the developments in Morrowind during Oblivion's time period became known? How Helseth illegalized slavery and freed the enslaved beast race people, and how the Telvanni on Vvardenfell were said to be occupied with fighting the invading daedra? If so, do you feel that has any bearing on your text?
Because I can believe somewhat that Aryon would choose to free the slaves before Helseth decreed it as law, although I personally find it illogical. For one, the Telvanni were the most fervent defenders of slavery of the three Houses featured in TES3 (Dres were even more fervent, I think). Two, legalized slavery, as abhorrent as it is, really does wonders for an economy as well as a military power; slave labor frees up unslaved citizens to focus on arts and literature, and make good cannon fodder to send to the front to thin out the opposing force without any losses of paid, culturally heterogenic soldiers with expensive equipment. So if Aryon wanted to strengthen the Telvanni, freeing their slaves would do the exact opposite. But I find it hard to believe that the Telvanni would embrace daedra worshippers at a point in time when daedra are trying to eradicate them from the face of Tamriel. Wouldn't they be seen more like aiding and abetting the enemy? How come he's describing the Ashlander-Telvanni alliance (and the result) to his Telvanni friend? Wouldn't Baladas already know of it?
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05-10-2006, 11:06 AM,
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It may feel very strange, but I can argue this to a different set of conclusions Razorwing...
Slaves are very expensive to run as you have to spend money to keep them healthy and happy for your own financial benefit and safety, but free people can starve to death...they are not your responsibility... Aryon is progressive technically...but then again what of the builders in the dungeons of his tower, and the legionnaire in his museum? Are we confusing scientific progressiveness and his attachment to the dunmer in his village with an attitude to slavery? It may be that if he agreed with your assessment of the economic and military value of slavery that he would retain it...as if you look at his actions you will see that he is quite ruthless in his actions when he deems such to be pragmatic. So I feel that his precise orientation is that pragmatism rules all, and he simply wants a structure in which his people will loyally follow him, giving their best however that can most efficiently be achieved... As to Daedra worshippers - he uses Daedra extensively in his own Tower, and I feel that he fully supports their use, but wants to combine it with 'Imperial and Dwemer style science'. So I can put forward the idea that he would fight the Invaders not only as a matter of self preservation, but also as he might see the invasion as a threat to his freedom to use Daedra as he sees fit, though he would couch it in sugary terms. Therefore maybe we should strengthen the position of the the 'good' vs the 'bad' Daedra argument? So that he might set forth a 'Battle in Hell' scenario, whereby the only sure route to victory would be in allying with the 'good' Daedra of the Velothian creedos to defeat the 'bad' invaders. And on this note he might rage at any of the old school who thought that they should be free to ally with whichever Daedra they saw fit (regardless of effect on others) as being a danger to themselves and all Telvanni.
Because loyalty is not to be spoken of and honour is to be endured. Whilst courage is to be survived. These virtues belong to silence.
Steven Erikson. But, if one man does nothing can he be said to be good? raggidman |
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05-10-2006, 06:48 PM,
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this was made long long ago... and I plan to make revisions to reflect the new info...
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05-14-2006, 02:58 AM,
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KuKulzA: Okidoki, I was just curious.
black[/HR] I moved the latter posts from this thread to here. Two of them seemed unfair and antagonistic towards KuKulzA, and as a whole, the cut posts were unrelated to the topic of this thread. Keep up the good work KuKulzA - I may not always agree with your conclusions, but your passion for lore is unmistakeable and often insightful.
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