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I think thats has already been posted in this thread before...

and if we can't have our form of Frozen slaughterfish...we not have a sword fish or something? Perhaps it could be an easter egg? I'm not sure how hard that would be to model or texture etc..

(also, sorry if some of my ideas are stupid, I'm reading up on lore, but I haven't really found much yet.)

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Edit: I found this at Wikipedia about highland cattle "They were also known as "kyloes" in Lowland Scots - possibly a corruption of G?idhealach meaning of "Gaelic culture", or by conflation with "kye", an old name for cow." so mabye Kyloes or Kye might be the way to go.

Yeah I imagined a Nord saying that and it sounds OK.
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we still need to clear up the matter of frost giants now...

And what about Mountain trolls? I was thinking something that would look like the wampa from star wars...Or would that look too much like the frost giants (I think we said they would look like Karstag, who looks like a wampa)

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Mountain Giants would be fat hairy men, Frost Giants would basically be a variant of Karstaag.

Kyloes sounds like a good name for our Yaks Yes
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awumo, btw, I've posted some more Ingrediants and Misc. Items here:

The Skyrim Edition of the Botany Books

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awumo, btw, I've posted some more Ingrediants and Misc. Items here:

The Skyrim Edition of the Botany Books

Excellent work, thanks unholyalliance Good job!
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No probs...

Ok, we have a lot of animals sorted now, so now we need to figure out where abouts in skyrim they'll mostly be found (I.e Mountain Lion in the Jerall Mountains, Mud Crabs by rivers and lakes etc...)

I know this may not be crucial atm but it still needs doing...I'm also partily doing this so I can edit my post in the "Ingediants for Skyrim" thread and add some background to all the ingrediants and Misc. Items.

Cheers Everyone Good job!

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Bump of eco POWER....yeah baby

Anyway, lets get the list at the start updated

Plus the Lore Creature Expansion has a great Frost Giant model that we may be able to use with permission

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we are already using that Frost Giant in HG.
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GOOD!

Anyone else seen or found anything good? Need to polish this off I think.....though I guess priority is landscape.....


Why are we foooooorgotten.......why are we sooooooo lost?

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Read more threads befor posting, get a better view of what is currently going on Danmako, it will stop you from making Noobish posts Wink
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Read more threads befor posting, get a better view of what is currently going on Danmako, it will stop you from making Noobish posts Wink


It is hard to say that TOYB, I remember when I first joined, and finding it impossible to know everything that was going on as information is spread throughout threads all over the place, a lot of information isn't even in the right thread.
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Read more threads befor posting, get a better view of what is currently going on Danmako, it will stop you from making Noobish posts Wink


It is hard to say that TOYB, I remember when I first joined, and finding it impossible to know everything that was going on as information is spread throughout threads all over the place, a lot of information isn't even in the right thread.


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Why are we foooooorgotten.......why are we sooooooo lost?

Wasted

Because we are drunk Nords... and on top of that we're dumb as hell. Stereotypes are so funy! :D
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Read more threads befor posting, get a better view of what is currently going on Danmako, it will stop you from making Noobish posts Wink


It is hard to say that TOYB, I remember when I first joined, and finding it impossible to know everything that was going on as information is spread throughout threads all over the place, a lot of information isn't even in the right thread.


Reading helps the mind


There is almost 11000 posts in skyrim for oblivion, regardless of whether or not it is good to read, it isn't really sensible to expect someone new to know exactly what is going on. It is different if you have seen things progress from early on.
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Your a wise old nord, not drunk or dumb... I am drunk :D

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Your a wise old nord, not drunk or dumb... I am drunk :D

No, you're just sleepy :D *mumble mumble* always trying to nap while on the job... *grumble grumble*

But TOYB, I fail to see the noobishness of his post. It was a perfectly valid question.

@ Danmako, nothing has really happened with this thread lately, maybe you want to kick some life into it? Throw out some new ideas?
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Hey yo......Really like the fact that the Frost Giant is being used....anyway

Some of the ideas already espoused in this thread are perfect, I am an anal ecologist with a bent for the fantastic so I just like to throw in a completely functioning eco system with credible prey-predator scenarios....as you are all aware we all have our little hobbies Yes

I just recommend updating the first post with editing what is up to date for a start, sorry to throw work your way siegfried, but scanning through and changing what has been agreed and disagreed upon would be cool.....

I do have some ideas, though most of them are covered with the wolves, bears and deer section....the sabre tooth tiger intrigued me and made me ponder, so just to start (because I am not sure how relevant this is going to all be, I dont know who is responsible for scripting and placing all this)

A mini theme that could be used is that of throwbacks...animals in colder environments tend to grow larger, and the northern parts of Tamriel are also quite severe, so animals of a more ancient line would make the area feel a bit more unique

I suggest having some less common spawns that include Megatherium deer, sabre tooth tigers, cave bears, dire boar, perhaps a striped dire lion and if possible (i have no idea) wooly Rhino

I cant remember the name exactly used by the Kye are also an excellent idea, a quest to tame one as a mount could be cool

There is more, much more and in detail, but I dont know how it will be received or how useful it is or if anything has already been sealed in stone

Thank you, and Good Night Cool

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Someone else will need to handle the edit, as we have a timer on how long you can edit your post without moderator privileges. Psych or Bard will have to handle that.
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Hey yo......Really like the fact that the Frost Giant is being used....anyway

Some of the ideas already espoused in this thread are perfect, I am an anal ecologist with a bent for the fantastic so I just like to throw in a completely functioning eco system with credible prey-predator scenarios....as you are all aware we all have our little hobbies Yes

I just recommend updating the first post with editing what is up to date for a start, sorry to throw work your way siegfried, but scanning through and changing what has been agreed and disagreed upon would be cool.....

I do have some ideas, though most of them are covered with the wolves, bears and deer section....the sabre tooth tiger intrigued me and made me ponder, so just to start (because I am not sure how relevant this is going to all be, I dont know who is responsible for scripting and placing all this)

A mini theme that could be used is that of throwbacks...animals in colder environments tend to grow larger, and the northern parts of Tamriel are also quite severe, so animals of a more ancient line would make the area feel a bit more unique

I suggest having some less common spawns that include Megatherium deer, sabre tooth tigers, cave bears, dire boar, perhaps a striped dire lion and if possible (i have no idea) wooly Rhino

I cant remember the name exactly used by the Kye are also an excellent idea, a quest to tame one as a mount could be cool

There is more, much more and in detail, but I dont know how it will be received or how useful it is or if anything has already been sealed in stone

Thank you, and Good Night Cool


I agree, we could have a few rare types of deer (as wall as boars, bears and wolves). Come up with some names (for the deer) and a general description of their appearance and I will add them to the OP if there are no objections.

The Megatherium is also a great idea, it will fit very well into Skyrim I think. Yes

Wooly Rhino eh? Maybe someone can do a concept on a creature like that and we'll see how well it fits in.
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How about having a Pixie creature in Skyrim? I'm not thinking of the small flying people that play tricks on villagers (though that might be a good idea for another creature), but more of a combination between a Pixie and a Succubus.

There already is a creature similar to the Succubus in lore (the Daedra Seducer), but this one would be different. It won't be of daedric origin and it won't be evil in the traditional sense, it will be more like a Spriggan. The Pixie will also resemble a Siren in a way, playful, but with an ultimate goal of luring men to it in order to drain their life force. It will be a female spirit (though there probably should be a male counterpart too), only transforming into a corporeal form in order to lure people to it. When it is in spirit form it will resemble a Willow-o-Wisp in many ways (being very hard to kill without magic for one).

When in corporeal form the Pixies will appear as magically beautiful women and men. They will appear playful and never angry in an evil way. The life force of humans would be like food to them (like blood is to Vampires). A Pixies won't be able (or even try) to seduce the player or an NPC if they are of the same sex as the corporeal form of the Pixie spirit. While the Pixie spirit doesn't have a gender, it's corporeal form does. Every spirit has either a male or a female corporeal form.

The Pixie will cast spells like charm, calm humanoid, command humanoid (maybe), paralyze, drain health and drain magical. For the spells to have a better effect on the player they will be scripted to have a high dependency on the players willpower as the Pixie's magic is a form or hypnosis and subliminal mental suggestion. The spells might even be scripted to have a whispery song-like sound when cast.
The Pixies themselves should have an echoing, but pleasant sounding voice. They will be able to talk, but they will almost never talk to a human... unless it is for feeding purposes, in which case it would be more like magical persuasion trough speech.

Also Pixies will almost always be encountered alone, with no other pixies around them. The only things that might lurk around a Pixie are Willow-o-Wisps. And finally they will be rare and hard to find creatures, mostly encountered in forest.


For the technical details I was thinking of modifying the Spriggan model and textures, but there are no male Spriggan's so that's out of the picture I guess. They can also be made as a new race, the wood elves would be a good place to start. The textures will be modified as well as the body proportions and perhaps the face gen parameters.

So what do you think? Oh and they don't have to be called Pixies at all, we can come up with an original name if needed. Yes

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Downscaling the spriggan, then adding a particle effect, then giving it the Imps animations, and upscaling the speed would give a nice pixish effect.
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Downscaling the spriggan, then adding a particle effect, then giving it the Imps animations, and upscaling the speed would give a nice pixish effect.

But what about male Pixies? The Pixie shouldn't be very small when in corporeal form though, it should be around the size of a Bosmer.
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We don't need both genders, it's a waste of time and also whos to say they have to genders? There are only female Spriggans, there are only male miontaurs (Except the one you can find in your meshes of the one pregnant minotaur female that was never implemented).
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We don't need both genders, it's a waste of time and also whos to say they have to genders? There are only female Spriggans, there are only male miontaurs (Except the one you can find in your meshes of the one pregnant minotaur female that was never implemented).

The don't have genders, it's just a mask. But the reason genders are important is because Pixies lure their victims in a slightly sexual manner... by promising the victim all he/she could ever want if you will.
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So we will just have females, having males aswell is to much work and using races is a bad idea.

Also havn't you heard of lesbians? :lmao:

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So we will just have females, having males aswell is to much work and using races is a bad idea.

Also havn't you heard of lesbians? :lmao:

Why is using a race a bad idea? True, it's better to use a creature, but that way we will need a model for the male version.

And don't you think the female players will be jealous if there is no one around to seduce them and drain their vital energies. :D
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No they won't, the TES series always works like that.
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No they won't, the TES series always works like that.

...which doesn't mean it's good.

Pixies might be rare, but they will still act as an unfair disadvantage to male characters.

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We don't need male versions.

Only the female version, it makes it a lot easier and also we don't need a male version.
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We don't need male versions.

Only the female version, it makes it a lot easier and also we don't need a male version.

You have failed to persuade me.

We have enough time to make male versions as this is not a priority by any means... if the Pixies are a race it would be very easy.
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We don't need male versions.

Only the female version, it makes it a lot easier and also we don't need a male version.

You have failed to persuade me.

We have enough time to make male versions as this is not a priority by any means... if the Pixies are a race it would be very easy.


Yes but downsacle races always ends up looking horible, also that means it is possible to talkj to them and if a race is too small it doesn't zoom into their heads.

Also you have failed to persuade me.
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Yes but downsacle races always ends up looking horible, also that means it is possible to talkj to them and if a race is too small it doesn't zoom into their heads.

Also you have failed to persuade me.

I didn't say anything about downscaling them, they will be Bosmer sized. The textures will be what's new, as well as the eyes... and a shader effect. You won't be able to talk to them because they will be hostile to you... the option of talking to them for quest purposes will also remain open (and that is impossible to do with creatures).
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If they are bosmer sized it is pointless as they are really just filling the shoes of spriggans which we already have.
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If they are bosmer sized it is pointless as they are really just filling the shoes of spriggans which we already have.

How can you possibly be seduced by anything smaller then a Bosmer? Eek 1

Also Spriggans aren't playful and beautiful, they are psychotic.

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If they are bosmer sized it is pointless as they are really just filling the shoes of spriggans which we already have.

How can you possibly be seduced by anything smaller then a Bosmer? Eek 1

Also Spriggans aren't playful and beautiful, they are psychotic.


Um actually they are described as beautiful woodland spirts, resembling trees.

Also size doesn't matter.
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If they are bosmer sized it is pointless as they are really just filling the shoes of spriggans which we already have.

How can you possibly be seduced by anything smaller then a Bosmer? Eek 1

Also Spriggans aren't playful and beautiful, they are psychotic.


Um actually they are described as beautiful woodland spirts, resembling trees.

Also size doesn't matter.

They might be described as "beautiful woodland spirts", but they certainly don't look like ones.

Size doesn't matter?! :lmao: On what planet? Would you fall in love into a woman that is 15 cm tall?
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Hmmp. I've always thought Kylie Minogue was quite attractive.

But don't the Falmer and Reiklings sort of fill the role you're describing anyway?
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Hmmp. I've always thought Kylie Minogue was quite attractive.

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Hmmp. I've always thought Kylie Minogue was quite attractive.

But don't the Falmer and Reiklings sort of fill the role you're describing anyway?

No, not in the least. Falmer are just extinct elves (Snow Elves) and the Reiklings are short goblin-like creatures and they are butt-ugly. :D
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Ah ok. I suppose it fits the Nordic theme, lot's of different types of little annoying mischevious folk creatures
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