Georgia vs Russia

[MarcusAurelio]

Originally posted by Hegemege

In the game, Russia took over Ukraine and some other countries year 2007, so that's one fact where "futuristic" game doesn't become true. JK

Estland as well? :confused:
I fear they might attempt something here as well , there's a national holiday of some sort coming up...
Last year you might have heard of the bronze soldier thing...

[Hegemege]

No, not Estland, but Belarus, Lithuania and Azerbaijan, maybe others too.

At least here in FInland the bronze soldier thing was seen numerous times in news and lot of discussion appeared. Russia might not attack European countries, if they do, WW III might become too true, especially if US intervenes.

If no one likes to interrupt Russia's invade, next countries might be Armenia and Azerbaijan. But only if Russia wants to do that, one friend of mine told that Georgia first tried to take back it's own land, which was populated with ruskies. That's probably why Russia attacked, and maybe they wouldn't do the same trick again without reason.

One country I afraid Russia might put pressure on is Turkey...

If popular video games are coming true in the future, let's hope Stalker and year 2012 won't

[MarcusAurelio]

not familiar with stalker , but 2012 is commonly seen as the end of the world if im correct?
i'm worried about ukraine..
the bronze soldier was a similar sabotage attempt , but luckily we recruited people as assistantpolicemen instead of troops , that would've been fatal IMO.
The major countries really should stop s.cking off Russia , the more room they're being given , the more dangerous they become..

[Siegfried]

I've got to agree with you Marcus, it frustrates me that America (my home country) pussy-foots around with Russia so much. You have to play politics to some extent, and we really need Russia to help us with situations like Iran, but I think our diplomats and leaders need to realize that even if we give Russia what they want, they'll just keep doing little things to spite us/piss us off. We won't gain anything at all from catering to them.

On the subject of Georgia, what I heard was that there was a province bordering Russia that had been taken over by Russian favoring seperatists, and the Georgian government got fed up and went in to stomp them. The Russians then used that as an excuse to invade and attack Georgia.

I'd like Georgia to send the Russian troops packing with their tales between their legs, but I'm afraid that just isn't likely.

[MarcusAurelio]

from what I've heard , it was such - the separatists started firing at georgian villages and somethiDg like that , that the attack was the only option available. I'm not sure what to believe , though , because whilst Russian news and history is often modified to fit their points of view , there is no guarantee that Georgia ain't doing the same thing...

[MarcusAurelio]

fresh news : russia have rejected the truce proposal and have bombed the international airport of tbilisi an hour before the french minister of foreign affairs is due to arrive.
this looks bad with a capital B.

edit: i think i know what type of architecture the murderers of Kamal have , if you catch my drift...

[Bigboss]

I read about the history of the conflict and it seems both sides are fairly guilty to some degree.....Russia has actually had peace keeping forces in Georgia for a while...thing is though the georgian recently made a move towards a rebel controlled area that had Russian citizens...Russia feeling obligated to protect its citizens acted. The Georgians caused lots of collateral damage in this area and blamed it on the Russians...although its likely the Russians caused some damage as well....its wrong to for the Georgians to try and make themselves look like victims but Russia having citizens in Georgia in the first place seems almost a little bit imperialistic

[Siegfried]

The thing about the citizens in the separatist controlled area is that they are mostly not native Russians, they are South Ossietans. A year or two ago though, Russia started offering citizenship to seperatists.

Convenient excuse to send troops in eh?

[MarcusAurelio]

they have attempted to use their 'enslaved compatriots' here as well...(note:people who don't want to go back to rus , because they know life sucks there , yet they don't want to live peacefully with us either)
these lies might have done it in 1939 , but I really thought hey'd be out-dated by now.

[Bigboss]

nah I agree Siegfried Russia shouldnt have so many citizens in another nation in this first place but the Georgian governent could have at least waited until after such an even like the Olympics to make such aggresive moves towards the separtists...honestly Russia I agree should respect Georgia as a nation but the Russians were just doing what they thought was right by trying to protect its citizens...do I agree with it? No