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I'll try and get some pics tommorow for you of it Yes
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Another small update to see if I'm still going in the right direction

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/cow1787/karstaag02.jpg

Started a new texture, it's a little darker than the Ice cave texture, still needs tweaking though. As for the model, started the side wall carvings. The final won't be mirrored like how it is now. I just mirrored it as a placeholder so I wouldn't be missing half the castle


Looks really really good!!! Good job! Rocking Banana You rock!!!!!!

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Wohoo! Darn impressive that is. Good job!

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Thanks...but I started over, haha. I didn't think it was looking too good so I started a different modelling style to see which is better. I'll post up a pic of what it looks like now once it's decent enough to show off.

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Thanks...but I started over, haha. I didn't think it was looking too good so I started a different modelling style to see which is better. I'll post up a pic of what it looks like now once it's decent enough to show off.


Differnt style, I'd very much like to see this Yes
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It's not a different castle style, just how I am modelling it, as in the technique. I have been thinking about how I could add to the castle though. Though I know it's important to keep it original since it's the same castle, it'd be cool to see it 'revised' in some way for a 'next-gen' sort of feel I guess. But that's just something I've been pondering. It still currently looks as it did in BM.

Edit 2006.12.21 00:45:
Ok, here's an update of it. I'm still tweaking the texture a bit, but it's getting there. I think the corner pieces are a little too thick and short, so I think I'm going to thin up a bit and make them a little taller, and then they'll be good. Unless someone else has any suggestions.



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Wow! Good job! Good job! Good job! Good job! Good job!
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Looks pretty cool. I'm actually digging the chunky look of the corners there. It just has a bit of badass to it. Iwant to see what else you're gonna do to it. :)

I know exactly what you mean by 'revising'. The reason why certain models looked the way they did back hen, was because of the poly budget and limitations at the time. Also the way things are modeled in Tes4 is fairly different, as is the style of it. Its not easy to find a balance. As long as it looks cool, all the changes you make are what make it a good piece, and hopefully fit with in tes4. Insted of a knock off of a tes3 model and it sitting oddly in the new world. I'm sure you know what I mean.

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Looks good so far, I like the thick corners.

In my opinion you shouldn't worry about making it exact or anything. Ice changes shape and I'm sure there is some time passed between the events of Bloodmoon and Oblivion right? I dunno
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Glad you guys like the direction it's going in. I'm working on the sidewall now, and that will look a lot different from the original. I was working on making it look like the original in BM...but just thought it was coming out terrible..so while I continued to model it anyway, I thought of another way of doing it. It turned out to not look as evil (real round and 'bubbley' instead of sharp)...so I tweaked it a bit and to my surprise, turned it into a sharp and evil ice wall of doom. But of course, if no one else likes it, I'll definately continue with the original. I'll have pictures of it up soon.

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Ok, here's an update of it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/cow1787/karstaag03.jpg

Still tweaking the texture a bit, but it's getting there.

I think the corner pieces are a little too thick and short, so I think I'm going to thin up a bit and make them a little taller, and then they'll be good. Unless someone else has any suggestions.


I love it great work Good job!
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Ok, this is where it's at now. I kept the beefier corners. This was the new side wall I was talking about. It's got a lot more extrusions than the original. Let me know what you think. I may also have to uv it and make it's own texture rather than having a tiled texture. I should be able to show off the deep crevices better that way.

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Ok, this is where it's at now:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/cow1787/karstaag04.jpg

Kept the beefier corners. This was the new side wall I was talking about. It's got a lot more extrusions than the original. Let me know what you think. I may also have to uv it and make it's own texture rather than having a tiled texture. I should be able to show off the deep crevices better that way.

Oh yes, it looks VERY evil! Rocking Banana

Great work... once again! Good job!

Oh oh, make the spikes at the top taller! :D
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I think the entrance needs to be bigger, and the front needs to work with it, like it is something grand.

I do however like where you going with this Good job! If you could it would also be nice to see some of those rocks/pillars next to the castle made from the same sort of ice (Check the ref pics).
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I made the door area larger as well as added a placeholder door. Also made the door frame area more 'grand'...kind of. Added the rock pillars in the front, also added some smaller pillars for an even more grand entrance. And made the spikes taller..well some, still working on that.

Still would like to see some more original screenshots of the thing. The top if at all possible. As well as the tower?

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Looking great, the changes you made have really improved it Good job!
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Go go gadget cow!

Awesome work on the castle. It captures the feel of the original immensely.

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Thanks. Last update for the night.



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Thanks.

Last update for the night.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v21/cow1787/karstaag07.jpg

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Wow, it really brings back fond memories Good job! Yes
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Looks great, I have no memories but it still looks great Good job!

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Icy awesomeness man, icy awesomeness! Applause
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Looks fantastic Good job!
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Well I quickly got it into OB just to see how easy it would be. I made a lod for it but it didn't really work.. also when I looked too far down or too far up, it completely disappeared, no matter how close I was. And in the CS, I could barely click it, and I couldn't move it...the bounding box that's suppose to be around the whole thing was just a little tiny box hidden inside of it. So the door is kind of...under ground haha, so I couldn't see if it was big enough.



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Strange...Anyway the castle should be bigger, by say 1/3.
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Hmm maybe you should post somehting on the elder scrolls forums for that invisiblity bug, might help Yes

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lol why does it always rain when you want to take screen shots!

Not sure about those glitches.

I have heard of stuff about the bounding box. But I can't remember anything sorry.

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Yeah I'm still working on the size, it should be more accurate once I properly export it. And I'll make sure to post on the elder scrolls forum if the invisibility and other problems I had continue to occur.

As for the rain, it's been raining in my game ever since I installed it (about a week now). I think it's one of my Weather mods, meh, oh well. (I had to brighten those last two screen shots in photoshop because of the stupid weather)

I'm still working on the castle, but I'm also starting to take a look at Prometheus' Nord Architecture package. So updates on that should be coming soon. Would you want me to retexture these pieces or will someone else take care of that? I know the current textures it comes with are kind of 'placeholders', but OB already has a lot of good textures in it, I threw a few on there that are bruma textures and it looks a lot more natural. Wasn't sure if you guys were going to do the same or make a new set for them.. Guess it depends on where the architecture is going to be used?

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I'm still working on the castle, but I'm also starting to take a look at Prometheus' Nord Architecture package. So updates on that should be coming soon. Would you want me to retexture these pieces or will someone else take care of that? I know the current textures it comes with are kind of 'placeholders', but OB already has a lot of good textures in it, I threw a few on there that are bruma textures and it looks a lot more natural. Wasn't sure if you guys were going to do the same or make a new set for them.. Guess it depends on where the architecture is going to be used?

Try some stock OB textures and if it looks good we might just keep them. Yes
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The castle roof is covered in snow. There is a tower at the top which was overall useless, with nothing in it but a Riekling and for some reason a Daedric pauldron (you can see it there in the screen, middle-right.) I'd like there to be a use this time, like at least a staircase to the top which I think was the original idea when they made the outside mesh but when the inside meshes came there was no room. The second pic will show the roof.

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Oh ok, I just put a bunch of ice spikes up there for the roof. But the 'tower' can certainly be made

Edit 2006.12.26 06:05:
Been home for the holidays but I've been working on the nord architecture every now and then like I mentioned before.

Remodelled slightly (not noticable), reUVed, and retextured one of the houses. Also have 2 versions, one with snow piles and one without.

Prometheus' Before:


After:
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http://www.hibirddesign.com/files/MarksWork/House03.jpg
http://www.hibirddesign.com/files/MarksWork/House04.jpg
http://www.hibirddesign.com/files/MarksWork/House05.jpg
http://www.hibirddesign.com/files/MarksWork/House06.jpg

Most of the textures are OB Bruma and basic wood textures. Had to make a new roof texture, wasn't too sure what to do with it. Psychotic said this architecture will probably be used for Whiterun, so are these the types of materials Whiterun would use?

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Looks good to my eyes, and because you used stock OB textures lower class bruma can be used along side them and won't look out of place.

And yes the materials used to make this would be found in Whiterun, or imported from another area (Like Eastmarch or something).

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It's perfect! Good job!

Also the snow piles are a nice touch. Yes
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Looks great Good job!
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Nice work! Good job! As you get them done, I'll put them in Whiterun. They'll still need matching int's, but that's another story.
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Got another house reworked. All these still need doors and windows added to them, but I'll worry about that once I get all the of them retextured..then I can just make a few windows and slap them on in places, easy peasy.

I guess this is a LC house. Also has a snow piled version which has some snow stopped up on the roof because it's shaped weird. Might bee too much but I guess it depends on how hard it's been snowing, haha.



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It looks great, but I do think the big snow pile looks a bit unnatural... perhaps you can go without that pile.

All else looks cool though! Good job!
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Sorry, but I gotta disagree - I like the snow. And checking the dormers out the window, it looks about right, too.

About the doors and windows - maybe make them as separate meshes so we can make each building a bit more unique.
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About the doors and windows - maybe make them as separate meshes so we can make each building a bit more unique.

Yeah, that would be good. Yes

I just think that the snow should be more evenly distributed along the roof, though it's not that important.
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I agree that it's a little too much, looked weird to me but wanted to see what you guys thought.

I've got a new one done. Really big building...didn't really know how to scale it though. I looked at how the stone foundation was and how the roof goes all the way to the stone, unlike the first house I did where there's roof, logs, stone. Also looked at how many floors it is (about 3) So it's about the same size as that first house I retextured. The top of the door will probably be at the top of the stone, so it'll be flush between the stone and log wall. I'll hurry and try to get a few door and window models in these 3 that I've done so Greybeard can start doing what he needs to with them.



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Looks very good. Good job!

The 3 (or is it 4?) extensions that come out of the sides of this building should be about the same size as the second building you did (the small LC house)... perhaps that helps with determining the overall scale.
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