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DarkAsmodeous
King of the Kittens

Registration Date: 25.05.2006
Posts: 4,317

Yeah, tree top bandits are always fun.

24.07.2006 19:31

FLESH
Archduke

Registration Date: 23.06.2006
Posts: 2,823
Location: Ireland

Ok, no DB. Everything is new, besides the Fighters and Mages. Sound good? Maybe the thieves guild (VW version, not acctualy called the TG) will include tree top roberies, or the like. I like the idea of all new.

24.07.2006 22:36

Krisi-_
Archduke

Registration Date: 27.06.2006
Posts: 1,838
Location: Norway

hmm Tribes... Lady Benoch's Words and Philosophy say to tribe name just not sure if both is bosmer...
Lady Benoch's Words and Philosophy
http://til.gamingsource.net/mwbooks/wordsandphilosophy.shtml

26.07.2006 21:42

TheImperialDragon
Councilor

Registration Date: 21.06.2006
Posts: 6,436
Location: Ontario, Canada

Like a Robin Hood type faction? Give to rich and steal from the poor... Eek 1

Sorry, vice versa...

26.07.2006 21:46

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raggidman
Prince

Registration Date: 06.01.2006
Posts: 3,317
Location: where my heart is

ummm, fighters guild quest = no rats. Try giant squirrels!

DB 'course they are in Valenwood, questio is just joinable or no?

The point about joinable is that it gives you a different informational potential.

The big let down with Ob to my mind is that the Heart of the Empire should be the most complex location possible where all the races vie for dominance....

Valenwood / Prophet? Well why not? Maybe this is a time of Phophesy everywhere in Tamriel? Not in Cyrodiil you say? What if there is a Prophet there but the player's path never took him/her near the Prophet because the player's tasks were largely irrelevant to the Prophecy?

Valenwood - is the place of Elven chiaroscuro - where the nature of the mer is tied into the ruthless and chillingly feral heart of the clean and vibrant forest.

The presentation of further prophesy should be acceptable if done with sufficient subtlety and power. Also it has to be representative of something entirely new (and very different to the Morrowind theme) that takes the player into the mysteries of the forest, beyond the machinations of Hircine, reaching... into the reasons for and the nature of the Pact perhaps - everything has consequences and reasons...

The true heart of Cyrodiil is of course the Dragon ... and the heart of Morrowind are the Good Daedra, so what is the heart of Valenwood? Once we have defined that and worked on the lines that spin from it we will have the defining characteristics for this mod and our essential guilds.

When we look at guilds we must also consider skills and attributes - and the nature of Valenwood experience. I suggest trees = climbing, hiding, tracking and the bow.

tracking? absolutely - this should be a core skill - a new skill only available to the player here in Valenwood - and 'given' to the player by whatever 'power' sponsors him/her so that he/she can bring about it's desired outcome... heh, heh bu***r the cumpuss! Yes

26.07.2006 23:41

Krisi-_
Archduke

Registration Date: 27.06.2006
Posts: 1,838
Location: Norway

DB should not be its own branch... with other words depending on Cyrodiil faction.. (I cant see why everybody think no DB! people love DB!)

Skills is hardcoded (isn't?) so we will have to use the lesser power to check how good you are stuff...

Heart of Valenwood... do you mean leader or beliefs?

and NO RATS? why not?

28.07.2006 21:29

Hypno-toad
Warder

Registration Date: 24.07.2006
Posts: 32
Location: New England USA

There was a unarmored skill mod that had a little token that you carried around and it leveled up and it was just like a skill. I think that was made by Galerion (sp?) someone should check up on that.

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28.07.2006 23:44

Krisi-_
Archduke

Registration Date: 27.06.2006
Posts: 1,838
Location: Norway

there are many ways of doing the skill stuff and his mod isn't the only one

28.07.2006 23:47

Krisi-_
Archduke

Registration Date: 27.06.2006
Posts: 1,838
Location: Norway

Well can one of the Tribes headhunt Khajiits?? (or outsiders?|) and having luck charms who look like vodo dolls Cool

aka this

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30.07.2006 20:57

FLESH
Archduke

Registration Date: 23.06.2006
Posts: 2,823
Location: Ireland

There are many tribes in Valenwood, so I say, sure why not.

30.07.2006 21:45

FLESH
Archduke

Registration Date: 23.06.2006
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Location: Ireland

How many of you think The Rangers could replace the TG? OR come up with a name someone.

Also, I have a tribe of exiles outside Arenthia, they are direct decendant from the King Arenthia but they aren't recognised, so I have a mini questline getting them back into the palace.

05.08.2006 11:16

TheImperialDragon
Councilor

Registration Date: 21.06.2006
Posts: 6,436
Location: Ontario, Canada

quote:

Originally posted by FLESH
How many of you think The Rangers could replace the TG? OR come up with a name someone.

Also, I have a tribe of exiles outside Arenthia, they are direct decendant from the King Arenthia but they aren't recognised, so I have a mini questline getting them back into the palace.

I think we should find out what our band of thieves are before coming up with a name.

05.08.2006 20:48

FLESH
Archduke

Registration Date: 23.06.2006
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Location: Ireland

Renegades, vagabons, and everything else mischievious?

05.08.2006 20:50

FLESH
Archduke

Registration Date: 23.06.2006
Posts: 2,823
Location: Ireland

How about this. Sugar Lip Habasi decided to leave the TG, because of the . . . . restrictions. She set up her own guild in Valenwood called The Marauders guild. Sound good?

07.08.2006 19:45

Krisi-_
Archduke

Registration Date: 27.06.2006
Posts: 1,838
Location: Norway

quote:

Originally posted by FLESH
How about this. Sugar Lip Habasi decided to leave the TG, because of the . . . . restrictions. She set up her own guild in Valenwood called The Marauders guild. Sound good?

marauders are fort/ruin looters? or they are show as it in Oblivion.. and where did you pull that name up from?

17.08.2006 13:32

Arbiter
Archduke

Registration Date: 24.10.2005
Posts: 2,633
Location: Croatia the Nether-Bringer

Yeah, marauders aren't really thief like guild.

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17.08.2006 13:38

FLESH
Archduke

Registration Date: 23.06.2006
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Sugar Lips? She's from Morrowind, one of the first people you meet (well I dont know the TG is the first place I haded to in Balmora)

17.08.2006 13:39

Krisi-_
Archduke

Registration Date: 27.06.2006
Posts: 1,838
Location: Norway

quote:

Originally posted by FLESH
Sugar Lips? She's from Morrowind, one of the first people you meet (well I dont know the TG is the first place I haded to in Balmora)

well everybody seams to forget that I haven't played Morrowind.. I dunno

17.08.2006 13:49

FLESH
Archduke

Registration Date: 23.06.2006
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Location: Ireland

Hehe, Krisi you really should. Oblivion has better combat (IMO) but Morrowind is more satisfyingto play, like Telvanni architecture, that is amazing. Or vivec (even though Beth had a better plan for I still love that city) The guilds are more fun and there is more of them. Morrowind is a game you have to own (thats right, get your ass to the shop and buy the GOTY edition, it's only 10$)

17.08.2006 13:54

Krisi-_
Archduke

Registration Date: 27.06.2006
Posts: 1,838
Location: Norway

quote:

Originally posted by FLESH
Hehe, Krisi you really should. Oblivion has better combat (IMO) but Morrowind is more satisfyingto play, like Telvanni architecture, that is amazing. Or vivec (even though Beth had a better plan for I still love that city) The guilds are more fun and there is more of them. Morrowind is a game you have to own (thats right, get your ass to the shop and buy the GOTY edition, it's only 10$)

My computer cant run anything in it's current state.. or not any game atleast..

17.08.2006 13:58

FLESH
Archduke

Registration Date: 23.06.2006
Posts: 2,823
Location: Ireland

quote:

Originally posted by Krisi-_

quote:

Originally posted by FLESH
Hehe, Krisi you really should. Oblivion has better combat (IMO) but Morrowind is more satisfying to play, like Telvanni architecture, that is amazing. Or vivec (even though Beth had a better plan for I still love that city) The guilds are more fun and there is more of them. Morrowind is a game you have to own (thats right, get your ass to the shop and buy the GOTY edition, it's only 10$)

My computer cant run anything in it's current state.. or not any game atleast..

Most computers should be able to run MW, what is wrong with it?

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17.08.2006 13:59

Krisi-_
Archduke

Registration Date: 27.06.2006
Posts: 1,838
Location: Norway

quote:

Originally posted by FLESH

quote:

Originally posted by Krisi-_

quote:

Originally posted by FLESH
Hehe, Krisi you really should. Oblivion has better combat (IMO) but Morrowind is more satisfying to play, like Telvanni architecture, that is amazing. Or vivec (even though Beth had a better plan for I still love that city) The guilds are more fun and there is more of them. Morrowind is a game you have to own (thats right, get your ass to the shop and buy the GOTY edition, it's only 10$)

My computer cant run anything in it's current state.. or not any game atleast..

Most computers should be able to run MW, what is wrong with it?

Video card is down at badest driver.. only runing in Safe Mod.. and no sound.. cant run install programs due to Safe Mod.. and the list goes on..

17.08.2006 14:04

FLESH
Archduke

Registration Date: 23.06.2006
Posts: 2,823
Location: Ireland

Isn't it possible to turn off Safe Mode?

17.08.2006 14:12

Krisi-_
Archduke

Registration Date: 27.06.2006
Posts: 1,838
Location: Norway

quote:

Originally posted by FLESH
Isn't it possible to turn off Safe Mode?

Computer only work in Safe Mode due to virus.. missing or currupted Window's files..

17.08.2006 14:21

Arbiter
Archduke

Registration Date: 24.10.2005
Posts: 2,633
Location: Croatia the Nether-Bringer

What about Mages Guild here in VW?

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19.08.2006 23:05

Krisi-_
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Registration Date: 27.06.2006
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quote:

Originally posted by Arbiter
What about Mages Guild here in VW?

should be since they are in a provinces..

19.08.2006 23:20

Arbiter
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Yeah, but what order and things? Their leader...

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20.08.2006 00:00

Wolvman
First Knight

Registration Date: 01.09.2006
Posts: 109

RE: Guilds

Wait I thought Valenwood was the home of the wood elves , I may be wrong but I thought wood elves like it in the woods. So shouldn't they have like a rangers guild or something outdoorsy.

11.09.2006 02:30

Ebonyknight
Seigneur

Registration Date: 04.02.2006
Posts: 834
Location: Canada, Ontario

As for GreatHouse Ideas you could have Clans since they are major in Valenwood after reading many books ingame. You could say have 4 or 3 clans and you could only join 1. And do quests to expand power/wealth/troops/influence/trades outside the province/ambushing other clans caravans/attacking strongholds such as tree or ground based strongholds/ weapon dealings such as bone trades and what not build treasuries too hide certain stuff and it just goes on infact I wouldn't mind claiming a clan if you accept this and coming up with the Names and skills they like and what not.

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11.09.2006 03:41

TheImperialDragon
Councilor

Registration Date: 21.06.2006
Posts: 6,436
Location: Ontario, Canada

RE: Guilds

quote:

Originally posted by Wolvman
Wait I thought Valenwood was the home of the wood elves , I may be wrong but I thought wood elves like it in the woods. So shouldn't they have like a rangers guild or something outdoorsy.

Probably, but there are also a number of Imperial Guilds (foreigners)... But there will indeed be Wood Elf native guilds and stuff included in this list, now that I think of it, a Hunters Guild wouldn't be too out of place here...

quote:

Originally posted by Ebonyknight
As for GreatHouse Ideas you could have Clans since they are major in Valenwood after reading many books ingame. You could say have 4 or 3 clans and you could only join 1. And do quests to expand power/wealth/troops/influence/trades outside the province/ambushing other clans caravans/attacking strongholds such as tree or ground based strongholds/ weapon dealings such as bone trades and what not build treasuries too hide certain stuff and it just goes on infact I wouldn't mind claiming a clan if you accept this and coming up with the Names and skills they like and what not.

I like that idea. Yes

11.09.2006 08:21

FLESH
Archduke

Registration Date: 23.06.2006
Posts: 2,823
Location: Ireland

RE: Guilds

I am sure I have mentioned Rangers several times now Eek 1

Also EbonyKnight, 4 main clans was what I was thinking aswell, if you would like to claim a clan that I wouldn't mind at all.

Quests would need to be put off for later, but the main layout (what was mentioned in your post) would be great.

11.09.2006 20:46

Krisi-_
Archduke

Registration Date: 27.06.2006
Posts: 1,838
Location: Norway

RE: Guilds

If using the Ranger name I'll go hang myself(not really).. too much D&D influensed name, if you ask me..

11.09.2006 22:29

Ebonyknight
Seigneur

Registration Date: 04.02.2006
Posts: 834
Location: Canada, Ontario

yea sure ill get to work on clans like their background their history what food they like you know the WORKS HUT HUT

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12.09.2006 00:54

Ebonyknight
Seigneur

Registration Date: 04.02.2006
Posts: 834
Location: Canada, Ontario

Heres the names still debating and could change

Clan Barkhide

Clan Amber-sap

Clan ThistleBack

Clan Shadowleaf

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12.09.2006 03:08

Ebonyknight
Seigneur

Registration Date: 04.02.2006
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Location: Canada, Ontario

Here is the clans outline

Attachment:

Clans of Valenwood.txt (3 KB, 12 downloads)

12.09.2006 04:22

FLESH
Archduke

Registration Date: 23.06.2006
Posts: 2,823
Location: Ireland

Looks sound to me, but two things: 1) High Elf Lords of Western Valenwood? I have not seen this anywhere 2) All these clans are like the Imperial guilds, Fighters Guild, Mages Guild, Thives Guild. At number 2 we come to a problem.

The Imperial do have a presence in Valenwood (although not a big one) so that would mean they have their guilds there. Do we drop the Imperial guilds in favour of the clans, but thinking about it a different way. You can only join one.

But will people notice the similarities and think we just ripped off the Imperial guilds (not saying that you did that Ebony, but other people that do not frequent here may think so).

12.09.2006 17:41

Arbiter
Archduke

Registration Date: 24.10.2005
Posts: 2,633
Location: Croatia the Nether-Bringer

quote:

Originally posted by FLESH
Looks sound to me, but two things: 1) High Elf Lords of Western Valenwood? I have not seen this anywhere 2) All these clans are like the Imperial guilds, Fighters Guild, Mages Guild, Thives Guild. At number 2 we come to a problem.

The Imperial do have a presence in Valenwood (although not a big one) so that would mean they have their guilds there. Do we drop the Imperial guilds in favour of the clans, but thinking about it a different way. You can only join one.

But will people notice the similarities and think we just ripped off the Imperial guilds (not saying that you did that Ebony, but other people that do not frequent here may think so).

I'm all up for the clans. Guilds are overused anyway.

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12.09.2006 18:24

Mormacil
Herma-Mora the Woodland Man

Registration Date: 15.08.2006
Posts: 2,250
Location: Netherlands

I think we should stick with at least the FG and the MG. TG isn't really nessecary, in Morrowind they weren't very strong too, so why not compleetly gone in Valenwood. I don't think the TG could compete with the native Bosmer.(and I don't think the Khajiit memeber would stick around long...)

But I like 4 clans, joinable like the Great Houses of Morrowind. I think a rangersguild in the woods is to obvious and doesn't really fit into Valenwood. What about a vampire"guild"? Only joinable as a vampire.

12.09.2006 19:03

Krisi-_
Archduke

Registration Date: 27.06.2006
Posts: 1,838
Location: Norway

the Guilds is a must(imperial goverment ones..).. they are in every province.. dont like the clan's outline.. the Valenwood Vampires are too hard to have joinable.. (if you ask me)

quote:

think a rangersguild in the woods is to obvious and doesn't really fit into Valenwood.

what do you lie in the word Ranger? (just wonder as it fit.. but ofc it could and maybe should be a clan instead..)

quote:

TG isn't really nessecary, in Morrowind they weren't very strong too, so why not compleetly gone in Valenwood. I don't think the TG could compete with the native Bosmer.(and I don't think the Khajiit memeber would stick around long...)

I think weak presence.. some quest.. maybe a small quest line?

and Bosmer Main Weapon = bow (thats to clan and Ranger dont fit..)

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12.09.2006 19:12

FLESH
Archduke

Registration Date: 23.06.2006
Posts: 2,823
Location: Ireland

So what do we call them, brothers of Tree-Sap? Hmm, no TG I think. Whats the point of TG in Valenwood? Where everyone steals stuff, I think a clan more focused on illegal get and supply is much better than a TG.

The main problem I had with the clans were the rank names for the magic focused clan, it really rang of the MG. Things would be much easier if we could just go original and not have any Imperial guilds. I'm not saying no presence at all, just that they all gave up trying to work in Valenwood.

12.09.2006 21:43

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